Comments on: The sequence of helper callbacks http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/ baking cakes with CakePHP Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:41:30 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: cakebaker http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111538 cakebaker Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:12:53 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111538 @Nicolas: Thanks for your comment! @Nicolas: Thanks for your comment!

]]> By: Nicolas F http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111458 Nicolas F Mon, 27 Oct 2008 17:01:43 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111458 CakePHP is a great framework - The Bakery and this blog contribute a lot to its learning curve. Latly more questions have been raised here targeting the concept of how "new/existing features" are implemented, which I appreciate. But I wonder what kind of impressions someone new to this framework would have if he only focuses on this blog's last posts? However, this is a personal blog and not the official CakePHP Blog. So keep on posting / baking Daniel. CakePHP is a great framework – The Bakery and this blog contribute a lot to its learning curve. Latly more questions have been raised here targeting the concept of how “new/existing features” are implemented, which I appreciate. But I wonder what kind of impressions someone new to this framework would have if he only focuses on this blog’s last posts?

However, this is a personal blog and not the official CakePHP Blog. So keep on posting / baking Daniel.

]]> By: cakebaker http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111457 cakebaker Mon, 27 Oct 2008 16:51:15 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111457 @Felix: Difficult question. I think "enjoy" is the wrong word. For me, CakePHP is a tool, like a hammer for a carpenter. A carpenter enjoys to build some furniture, and I enjoy to build web applications. And to do that, I use CakePHP as my preferred tool. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it. @The Mullet: Hm, maybe I have to describe better why something should be done in a different way? @Abhimanyu: You are welcome :) @Felix: Difficult question. I think “enjoy” is the wrong word. For me, CakePHP is a tool, like a hammer for a carpenter. A carpenter enjoys to build some furniture, and I enjoy to build web applications. And to do that, I use CakePHP as my preferred tool. Sometimes I love it, sometimes I hate it.

@The Mullet: Hm, maybe I have to describe better why something should be done in a different way?

@Abhimanyu: You are welcome :)

]]> By: Abhimanyu Grover http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111438 Abhimanyu Grover Mon, 27 Oct 2008 12:15:42 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111438 I appreciate your posts always Daniel. I think its perfectly logical to raise a question like this. And as always, it has been increasing my CakePHP knowledge from years - just like it did in this post. I appreciate your posts always Daniel. I think its perfectly logical to raise a question like this. And as always, it has been increasing my CakePHP knowledge from years – just like it did in this post.

]]> By: The Mullet http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111292 The Mullet Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:53:37 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111292 Daniel... this is not a court case where anyone has to prove anything. But being a frequent reader of tickets at cake-trac, my impression is that you are the person who submits the most number of tickets which simply describe unexpected behavior, alas things that can be done this or that way, but haven't been done the way you expect. Besides, many people know about the history you share with the core team. So please do not make the same mistake by alienating people by questioning their motives - just like nate did. I am not on one side or the other. I enjoy your blog, but I do often dislike your tickets. Just like I appreciate nate's work, but I do not like the way he comments other people's contributions. Daniel… this is not a court case where anyone has to prove anything. But being a frequent reader of tickets at cake-trac, my impression is that you are the person who submits the most number of tickets which simply describe unexpected behavior, alas things that can be done this or that way, but haven’t been done the way you expect.

Besides, many people know about the history you share with the core team. So please do not make the same mistake by alienating people by questioning their motives – just like nate did. I am not on one side or the other. I enjoy your blog, but I do often dislike your tickets. Just like I appreciate nate’s work, but I do not like the way he comments other people’s contributions.

]]> By: Felix Geisendörfer http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111287 Felix Geisendörfer Sat, 25 Oct 2008 10:30:09 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111287 Daniel: I have a single question for you: Do you still enjoy programming and working with CakePHP? Daniel: I have a single question for you: Do you still enjoy programming and working with CakePHP?

]]> By: cakebaker http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111282 cakebaker Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:08:12 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111282 @The Mullet: Thanks for your comment! Here the <a href="https://trac.cakephp.org/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&status=closed&reporter=dho&order=priority" rel="nofollow">link</a> to the tickets I opened. Do you have some examples of tickets which could have been more helpful? @The Mullet: Thanks for your comment!

Here the link to the tickets I opened.

Do you have some examples of tickets which could have been more helpful?

]]> By: The Mullet http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111278 The Mullet Sat, 25 Oct 2008 08:28:13 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111278 well... nate does have a point here: if you follow the tickets @caketrac closely, you'll see that daniel really does not provide much help but rather often opens tickets which simply seem to have one goal only: question the way certain things are done, simply because they don't work the way he expects them to work (dho is his username if you wish to search for some facts). Still, nate, I believe that your comment here is the bigger problem. If daniel really is the uneducated moron you believe him to be, why do you follow his blog at all? To keep his disciples from following him? Gosh, if I'd be trying to discuss (or even just insult through a short comment) everything I don't agree on with everyone that I consider being an uneducated driveller, I'd be doing nothing else than that. Instead, I simply remove such blogs from my feed reader. That will not happen to daniels blog, though. I do highly regard his writings, which are much better than the tickets he submits at trac. well… nate does have a point here: if you follow the tickets @caketrac closely, you’ll see that daniel really does not provide much help but rather often opens tickets which simply seem to have one goal only: question the way certain things are done, simply because they don’t work the way he expects them to work (dho is his username if you wish to search for some facts).

Still, nate, I believe that your comment here is the bigger problem. If daniel really is the uneducated moron you believe him to be, why do you follow his blog at all? To keep his disciples from following him? Gosh, if I’d be trying to discuss (or even just insult through a short comment) everything I don’t agree on with everyone that I consider being an uneducated driveller, I’d be doing nothing else than that. Instead, I simply remove such blogs from my feed reader.

That will not happen to daniels blog, though. I do highly regard his writings, which are much better than the tickets he submits at trac.

]]> By: cakebaker http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2008/10/23/the-sequence-of-helper-callbacks/comment-page-1/#comment-111270 cakebaker Sat, 25 Oct 2008 07:01:28 +0000 http://cakebaker.42dh.com/?p=906#comment-111270 @nate: Calm down and start listening! It is up to you whether you see this article, and everything else I write, as useless crap of someone who has no clue about anything, or whether you see it as feedback from which you could learn something to improve the framework. It's your choice. Oh, and please stop to attack me on the personal level. This is an article about the output of a piece of software, so keep it on the technical level. And if you don't have to say anything on that level, then please shut up. Thanks. @nate: Calm down and start listening!

It is up to you whether you see this article, and everything else I write, as useless crap of someone who has no clue about anything, or whether you see it as feedback from which you could learn something to improve the framework. It’s your choice.

Oh, and please stop to attack me on the personal level. This is an article about the output of a piece of software, so keep it on the technical level. And if you don’t have to say anything on that level, then please shut up. Thanks.

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