Comments on: Growing by eating less Cake

By: cakebaker

cakebaker — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:52:19 +0000

@Fabio: I hope I don’t disappoint you ;-)

Yes, Rails is on my plan. However, I will wait with looking into Merb until it is a part of Rails.

By: Fabio Cevasco

Fabio Cevasco — Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:49:52 +0000

Believe it or not, after reading this post I (re-)subscribed to your blog feed. Looking forward to read about something different, for a change.

It’s sad to hear that after _years_ some people never change :-/ Hopefully they’ll learn by their mistakes. Meanwhile, I’d personally recommend looking into the Ruby world more, in particular Merb and Rails (which will become one by the next Rails release).

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By: cakebaker

cakebaker — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:43:44 +0000

@David: Thanks for the link to that video, I enjoyed it :)

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By: David Persson

David Persson — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:44:37 +0000

Regarding Django I just discovered this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Fr65PFqfk
It’s a Keynote by one of the Flickr (PHP) makers about Django and Frameworks in general. Quite funny. I’m also about to build an app with django because of (a) the language, (b) the way it is developed and (c) it seems the framework really fulfills what it promises. Really would like to see you writing about it in the future!

By: John

John — Mon, 12 Jan 2009 12:21:01 +0000

@Cakebaker – well the Prado is still a maybe. We’re designing and cutting up the front end for somebody elses system (although all the real application is all in Shockwave or Flash). I reckon we could well be asked to tie them into the website too which is built on Prado, so writing templates, layouts etc.

By: cakebaker

cakebaker — Sun, 11 Jan 2009 17:04:49 +0000

@all: Thanks for your comments! (and I’m sorry for the late response)

@Josh: Thanks for recommending the Recess Framework, it looks promising.

@TheIdeaMan: Thanks for the idea for a future article!

I think a good compromise to leaving PHP completely is to go forward “double tracked”, i.e. using PHP and Django in parallel.

@brian: Yes, time is always an issue, however, I think if you really want to try something new you will find the necessary time for it, and you will do it even if you are not paid for it. See it as an investment into your future ;-)

@Brandon: Yes, putting the business logic into the model is definitely recommendable, and a nice side effect of it is the easier portability you mention.

I think limiting oneself to a single framework also has its advantages. Over time you know the chosen framework in and out, and so you can solve problems faster/better. You become a specialist for this framework, whereas if you know different frameworks you are more an allrounder. For me it paid off to set on a single framework in the last few years, but now I feel it is time for a change.

@busytoby: No, I don’t intend to change the name, because on an abstract level I will still bake cakes, but with other ingredients ;-)

@I drank the koolaide: Yes, PHP will still have a place in my toolbox.

@Rafael: Thanks!

@rbh: Hm, never heard about pluf ;-) But I will have a look at it.

@Silver Knight: All articles will stay online.

@jojo: Hope you will blog a bit about your experiences with Django ;-)

@Kris: Your framework looks really promising. From looking at the documentation I have to say I like the “decentral” routing idea, it is quite elegant. So far I only played a bit with the web-based “bake” tool, so I can’t say more about it yet.

@John: Yes, there is some truth in “[..] programmers are mostly motivated by boredom”. Prado is currently not on my list, but I hope you will blog about your experiences with it ;-)

By: John

John — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:53:46 +0000

Hi – I’m going to miss your writing about Cake so don’t abandon it completely.

On the other hand I’ve always belived that programmers are mostly motivated by boredom… or to put it another way, the desire to keep learning. There is so much happening at the moment and it is great time to see what’s out there.

Have fun, and let us all know what you find out there :)

p.s. my list for 2009 is to finally build a real app with Django and I might be doing a bit of Prado http://www.pradosoft.com/ (which should be something completely different)

By: Nils

Nils — Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:33:20 +0000

My goal for 09 is to learn writing drupal modules and deal more with rails. I once decided to go with cake – but now i must admit that i think it was wrong.

so rails and drupal is on my list for 09 :)