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		<title>By: cakebaker</title>
		<link>http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2009/01/10/book-review-practical-cakephp-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-139535</link>
		<dc:creator>cakebaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@jamc: I&#039;m not sure I understand your comment correctly (I had to use Google translate as I don&#039;t speak Spanish), but right now I don&#039;t recommend any CakePHP book as all (English) books are outdated... Probably the best thing you can do to learn CakePHp is to use the &lt;a href=&quot;http://api.cakephp.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;API&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://book.cakephp.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cookbook&lt;/a&gt;, and to ask questions in the IRC channel or the &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google group&lt;/a&gt; (there is also a &lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/cakephp-esp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Spanish group&lt;/a&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jamc: I&#8217;m not sure I understand your comment correctly (I had to use Google translate as I don&#8217;t speak Spanish), but right now I don&#8217;t recommend any CakePHP book as all (English) books are outdated&#8230; Probably the best thing you can do to learn CakePHp is to use the <a href="http://api.cakephp.org" rel="nofollow">API</a> and the <a href="http://book.cakephp.org" rel="nofollow">cookbook</a>, and to ask questions in the IRC channel or the <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php" rel="nofollow">Google group</a> (there is also a <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/cakephp-esp" rel="nofollow">Spanish group</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: jamc</title>
		<link>http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2009/01/10/book-review-practical-cakephp-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-139472</link>
		<dc:creator>jamc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si tienes razón este libro nunca fue pensado en el lector. desde el primer ejemplo de e-commerce no se lo puede seguir.

Aparte que como ya lo dijiste el tine mucho código &quot;incorrecto&quot;. ahora lo estoy leyendo pero me encuentro fustrado ya que pense que estaba mejor y lo peor es que no hay otro libro parecido.. Del otro lada cakePHP application development de Packt. Pub. me gusto mucho...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si tienes razón este libro nunca fue pensado en el lector. desde el primer ejemplo de e-commerce no se lo puede seguir.</p>
<p>Aparte que como ya lo dijiste el tine mucho código &#8220;incorrecto&#8221;. ahora lo estoy leyendo pero me encuentro fustrado ya que pense que estaba mejor y lo peor es que no hay otro libro parecido.. Del otro lada cakePHP application development de Packt. Pub. me gusto mucho&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cakebaker</title>
		<link>http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2009/01/10/book-review-practical-cakephp-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-117661</link>
		<dc:creator>cakebaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Watts: Yes, such things are annoying...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Watts: Yes, such things are annoying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Watts</title>
		<link>http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2009/01/10/book-review-practical-cakephp-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-117505</link>
		<dc:creator>Watts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I picked up this book, too, and I&#039;m terribly annoyed with it. In addition to the problems you mentioned, the technical editing in it is terrible. In Chapter 2, for instance, it tells you about the &#039;add_or_edit&#039; element for adding/editing posts, but it doesn&#039;t actually &lt;em&gt;give you that element&lt;/em&gt;. Listing 2-6 is for an add view that... doesn&#039;t use the add_or_edit element. If you follow along with the text, you won&#039;t be able to create the sample application.

There are other typos I&#039;ve caught, including in code. I bought the book in the hopes that it would teach me stuff I didn&#039;t know -- but I can recognize such grievous errors in the stuff I &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; know that I&#039;m just not sure I can trust it to get things more complex right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up this book, too, and I&#8217;m terribly annoyed with it. In addition to the problems you mentioned, the technical editing in it is terrible. In Chapter 2, for instance, it tells you about the &#8216;add_or_edit&#8217; element for adding/editing posts, but it doesn&#8217;t actually <em>give you that element</em>. Listing 2-6 is for an add view that&#8230; doesn&#8217;t use the add_or_edit element. If you follow along with the text, you won&#8217;t be able to create the sample application.</p>
<p>There are other typos I&#8217;ve caught, including in code. I bought the book in the hopes that it would teach me stuff I didn&#8217;t know &#8212; but I can recognize such grievous errors in the stuff I <em>do</em> know that I&#8217;m just not sure I can trust it to get things more complex right.</p>
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		<title>By: cakebaker</title>
		<link>http://cakebaker.42dh.com/2009/01/10/book-review-practical-cakephp-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-117464</link>
		<dc:creator>cakebaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Martin: ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Martin: ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Oliveira &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CakePHP books - Just another WordPress weblog (I&#8217;m fine with this tagline)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Oliveira &#187; Blog Archive &#187; CakePHP books - Just another WordPress weblog (I&#8217;m fine with this tagline)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Daniel Hofstetter has just recently reviewed Practical CakePHP Projects. Check it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martin Westin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Westin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;The controller should contain most of the business logic&quot;</description>
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&#8220;The controller should contain most of the business logic&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CakePHP : signets remarquables du 08/01/2009 au 13/01/2009 &#124; Cherry on the...</title>
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		<dc:creator>CakePHP : signets remarquables du 08/01/2009 au 13/01/2009 &#124; Cherry on the...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cakebaker</title>
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		<dc:creator>cakebaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike: Thanks for your comment!

Well, what I&#039;m trying to say is that the authors usually show one example of how something could be used. Without providing much background about the used feature (e.g. in the section about i18n the i18n shell script is never mentioned). The focus is often on making the example applications work, and not on teaching the reader how to use those feature in his own applications.

It&#039;s probably best to look at this book at a local bookshop to see whether it contains what you are looking for...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike: Thanks for your comment!</p>
<p>Well, what I&#8217;m trying to say is that the authors usually show one example of how something could be used. Without providing much background about the used feature (e.g. in the section about i18n the i18n shell script is never mentioned). The focus is often on making the example applications work, and not on teaching the reader how to use those feature in his own applications.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably best to look at this book at a local bookshop to see whether it contains what you are looking for&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was considering picking this up, but now I may re-consider. It sounds like you are trying to say that the authors provide solutions to a lot of common problems but fail at providing background or perspective to the problems themselves.

Or does it cover a lot of examples but just not the ones that are common amongst cake devs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was considering picking this up, but now I may re-consider. It sounds like you are trying to say that the authors provide solutions to a lot of common problems but fail at providing background or perspective to the problems themselves.</p>
<p>Or does it cover a lot of examples but just not the ones that are common amongst cake devs?</p>
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